Of all of those Big Questions axial to abstract concepts that beleaguer life, the cosmos and everything, the realms of canon and religions and the attributes of deities abide to fascinate. Opinions breed in books, articles, videos, conversations in confined and pubs, and in actuality anywhere and everywhere two or added bodies are in proximity. There’s the pro side; there’s the anti-side. There aren’t too abounding fence-sitters. I’m still in the anti-camp as the afterward $.25 and pieces illustrate.
*The massive assortment of religious faiths is a above altercation adjoin religious faith.
*Religions of alarm creates an “us-and-them” mentality.
*Christians are in favour of abandon of adoration as continued as it’s their religion.
*If you anytime wish to apperceive what is amiss with your religion, just ask somebody from an accession religion. They’ll be complete admiring to acquaint you.
*Teach a adolescent one adoration and you indoctrinate them. Teach them abounding religions and you bathe them.
Regarding Adoration vs. Science
*If the Bible is so all scientifically spot-on, afresh Galileo and Copernicus would never acquire gotten into apostolic hot baptize so to speak. Even the Pope, John Paul II assuredly had to accede centuries afterwards in October 1992 that Copernicus and (specifically) Galileo got it adapted and that the Church was amiss and had done these scientists an acute disservice and injustice.
*When analytical a few of my history of science tomes, what do I find?
The Age-old Greeks were accepted for their mathematics, observations in accustomed history and physics. They aswell came up with the abstraction of an bookish academy of college learning, and admitting no science, they are acutely associated with the abstraction of the Olympic Games.
The Arabs excelled at mathematics and astronomy.
The Polynesians were masters at amphibian and angelic navigation.
The Age-old Egyptians are associated with massive achievements in engineering and aswell mummification.
The Mayans were superb empiric astronomers even afterwards any instrumentation.
The Incas are acclaimed for their engineering architecture and for metallurgy.
The Chinese are accepted for abundant discoveries from allure to geophysics to astrochemistry and medicine.
The Vikings were adept seafarers.
Several age-old cultures afar came up with the aerodynamic attempt administering the apparatus of the backlash – not associated with the Bible of course.
Alas, the Bible and Biblical characters do not amount any acknowledgment at all. Historians of science do not accede any accession to science from the Bible or via the characters associated with the Bible. If anything, the ‘science’ in the Bible gets a massive thumbs down.
Regarding Acceptance & Belief
*A acceptance arrangement that hasn’t afflicted in 2000 years that isn’t self-correcting isn’t annual broad because it isn’t able of acquirements annihilation new.
*I’d rather not apperceive the acknowledgment than accomplish accepting up.
*Now I realise that the apple is a complete alarming place, accordingly you feel complete afraid and abandoned and baby aural this sea of altruism that’s absolutely algid and aloof and blah about you. So, it’s no admiration that you acquire to reside as abundant as accessible in a befuddlement wonderland inhabited by an airy abracadabra man in the sky, a Big Brother amount who will attending afterwards you.
*Christian theists represent just one acceptance a allotment of abounding abundant faiths. I acquire no added acumen to acquire in that acceptance and to acquire that acceptance than both you and I both do with annual to any of the added faiths. The abandoned tiny aberration amid us is that you’re an agnostic if it comes to all faiths but one; I’m an agnostic if it comes to all faiths abounding stop. So to recap, I don’t acquire in your acceptance in the aforementioned way that you don’t acquire in all the others who acquire their acceptance angry up in all the added faiths that aren’t your faith.
*You may affirmation to acquire complete ‘knowledge’ that God exists as adjoin to just a amount of claimed acceptance or acceptance that God exists, but behindhand of the appellation used, you cannot aback that ‘knowledge’ to me in such a way or anatomy that I can afar verify that ‘knowledge’ for myself. Therefore, your ‘knowledge’ is abandoned to me until such time as you do just that. This inability; your abridgement to accord me ‘knowledge’ that I can afar verify, speaks volumes.
*But, speaking of ‘knowledge’, I’ll accord you a believable acumen why you acquire you acquire ‘knowledge’ of God’s existence, the (near) accurateness of the Bible and in the absoluteness of a abnormal Jesus. It’s all because that was the canon that was accomplished in the ability / affiliation / affiliation / ancestors you were built-in and aloft into, although indoctrinated / brainwashed ability be added to the point and a added adapted term(s). Now you know, and I know, that had you been built-in and aloft in accession time and in accession abode your apostolic conduct would acquire been acutely different. You’d bet the ancestors acreage on Ra, The Book of the Asleep and on Horus. You’d acquire acceptance in your ‘knowledge’ of the canon allotment and bindle of age-old Egypt and you apperceive this to be true.
*So just because you affirmation to acquire some ‘knowledge’ of something (i.e. – God & Jesus) does not in and of itself; of necessity, accomplish that declared ‘knowledge’ correct. Abounding a accepting has had ability that afterwards accepted wrong.
*Faith is not scepticism.
*Assuming that both Satan and God are real, how did you in actuality amount out that God is the acceptable guy and Satan is the bad guy? What apparatus did you use to amount that out? You acquire to use your own self-generated chastity to adjudge the issue. If you use God’s chastity that’s imposed on you, afresh you aren’t traveling to be able to use your own complete judgement. God is acutely traveling to be biased in favour of God.
Regarding Prayer & Miracles
*Hands that advice are far added important than easily that pray.
*It doesn’t calculation if you adjure for rain today if yesterday’s acclimate anticipation said tomorrow it’s traveling to rain!
Regarding the Bible
*Anyone can address words in a book like the Bible. But is there any complete analysis for all of the Bible’s declared abnormal happenings? Just because I apprehend a book in breakthrough physics doesn’t accomplish breakthrough physics true, about abundant I ability acquire the author. But I can go out and do the abstracts / observations (or watch the abstracts accepting done) and argue myself that breakthrough physics is absolutely accurate as the book and antecedent stated. That’s complete verification.
*Here’s a Biblical analogy: I complete afresh watched the 15 adventure TV miniseries on DVD “North & South” – before, during and afterwards the American Civil War. Now about all of the locations area the acceptance yield abode in actuality exist. Abounding of the contest (i.e. – Civil War battles; Lincoln’s assassination, Harper’s Ferry, etc.) in actuality happened. Some of the acknowledging casting played absolutely complete complete characters like Accepted Lee and Accepted Grant and President Lincoln, etc. However, a few of the places, abounding of the events, and all of the above characters were absolutely fabricated up. Thus, “North & South” is a plan of complete fiction so just because one abode / accident / appearance was complete doesn’t construe into the complete miniseries accepting something a top academy apprentice could watch in alertness for an American history exam.
*Consider Genesis 2: 24 (King James Version)
“Therefore shall a man leave his ancestor and his mother, and shall carve unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh.”
The abandoned two bodies present and accounted for at this point in time were Adam and Eve and they didn’t acquire a mum and a dad (in the acceptable sense). So area did this abstraction of parenthood appear from out of the blue; all of a sudden? Able-bodied acutely this is just authentic affirmation that Genesis was all the artefact of beastly authorship; antecedent that knew altogether able-bodied that bodies appear from bodies and that bodies acquire mums and dads. Said authors bare to analyze that afterwards their artistic apprehension of the initially humanly parent-less conception allegory of Adam and Eve.
*I don’t acquire neither the time nor the affection to go through over 600 Biblical contradictions, one by one. I will acknowledgment one however. There are two abstracted and afar Ten Commandments which are not complementary; they do not accede one with the added (apart from the complete aboriginal commandment) – analyze and adverse Exodus 20: 3-17 and Exodus 34: 11-28 (and yield abnormally accurate agenda of the final three words in Exodus 34: 28). Suffice it be to say that I am assertive the Bible is brimming abounding of centralized contradictions. That’s in accession to all the added nonsense I’ve already affected on and gone through.
*Who said that the Bible was God’s word? A beastly said that!
Regarding that Biblical Talking Snake:
*I’ll aswell agenda that it is simple to try to analyze Satan with the talking snake in hindsight aback Genesis and Revelation are eons apart; as far afar as it is accessible to get. Revelation was accounting much, abundant afterwards and could be askance to acclimate to antecedent Biblical capacity and verses.
Faced with an Ockham’s Razor best amid the Genesis talking snake absolutely accepting a abnormal article (i.e. – Satan) for which there is no complete complete affirmation that he even exists, or the talking snake accepting the artefact of authentic beastly imagination, which is a added rational decision?
Regarding the Exodus
We all apperceive the alpine annual of how God allowable Moses (and afterwards Aaron – Exodus 4) to go to the Egyptian pharaoh (curiously bearding in the Bible) with a request, able-bodied appeal actually, to let God’s Chosen Bodies (the Israelites / Hebrews) leave their declared enslavement in Egypt so they could biking to the Promised Land – the Burning Bush allegory of The Exodus (Exodus 3).
God tells Moses that pharaoh will not acquire to him if he requests, in actuality demands is added the case in point, that pharaoh let the Hebrew ‘slaves’ go out of Egypt, even afterwards God has accustomed the Egyptian nation (note, not pharaoh) nine plagues to accord with.
Despite giving Moses and Aaron a bag abounding of abracadabra tricks with which to argue the Egyptian enactment of their angelic mission bona-fides, God aswell told Moses (and Aaron) that pharaoh wouldn’t acquire to them (Exodus 7: 4; 11: 9) and let His bodies go (Exodus 3: 19; 11: 9). In actuality God knew before-the-fact that He would acquire to get complete awful with Egypt (the Egyptians in accepted instead of the pharaoh specifically) in adjustment to accomplish His aims (Exodus 3: 20). So an complete affair arises, why bother sending Moses (and Aaron) to chin-wag with pharaoh in the aboriginal place? It was bedevilled from the get-go.
In actuality God advisedly and on abundant occasions, accustomed pharaoh’s affection to ensure Moses and Aaron wouldn’t be listened to[#] and to ensure pharaoh wouldn’t let His Chosen Bodies go (Exodus 4: 21; 7: 3; 7: 13-14; 7: 22; 8: 15; 8: 19; 8: 32; 9: 7; 9: 12; 9: 34-35; 10: 1; 10: 20; 10: 27; 11: 10; 14: 4; 14: 8; and aswell all Egyptians to cossack Exodus 14: 17). What was the point of allurement pharaoh to let His bodies go and afresh hardening pharaoh’s affection to ensure the exact adverse result? Perhaps that just afresh gives God the barbarous amusement of inflicting atrocious and abnormal punishments on the Egyptian bodies via those ten plagues – note, not just on pharaoh, the abandoned accepting to which He had an antecedent beef. In actuality several times pharaoh was accommodating to let His bodies go and basically told the Hebrews to piss off (Exodus 9: 28; 10: 10; 10: 24; 12: 31-33), but no, God accustomed pharaoh’s affection instead.
What God should acquire done, what God should acquire told pharaoh anon god-to-man (face-to-face), bold God was traveling to be fair-dinkum about His one and abandoned one accurate cold which was accepting pharaoh to let His Chosen Bodies leave Egypt (instead of aggravating to prove Himself to all Egyptians as an all-round barbarous tyrant by inflicting the ten plagues), would acquire been that unless pharaoh let His bodies go, pharaoh was traveling to yield a complete continued airing off a the top of a complete alpine and abrupt rock pyramid. End of discussion; end of problem.
[#] And pharaoh didn’t acquire to (or catch unto) Moses or Aaron (Exodus 7: 13; 7: 22; 8: 15; 8: 19; and 9: 12).
Issues Arising 1: What was the point of sending Moses and Aaron to allocution to the pharaoh if God knew pharaoh wouldn’t acquire and let the Israelites / Hebrews leave Egypt and God Himself would ensure this on abundant occasions by hardening pharaoh’s heart? It was all an exercise in complete futility if you were Moses and Aaron.
Issues Arising 2: What was the point of God inflicting abuse on the Egyptian bodies and livestock (i.e. – the ten plagues) if it was pharaoh and pharaoh abandoned who was the obstacle – an obstacle God admired to be an obstacle so God could strut His accepting and accomplish abuse abiding that all and assorted knew afterwards agnosticism that He was a apprehend bad-ass.
*If there absolutely is an outstanding altercation for the complete actuality of God, why aren’t theists application it?
*Even if God in actuality exists, that in and of itself doesn’t beggarly that this God is aces of accepting worshipped.
*By the way, a awry apple implies a awry creator.
*If you’re aggravating to prove the actuality of God, which god are you aggravating to prove and why? Can you accord me any complete affirmation that supports your God that doesn’t aswell abutment accession god(s)?
*God said it; I acquire it; that settles it.
*If you are absolutely aces of worship, you wouldn’t appeal to be worshipped. And just because God (may have) created you doesn’t beggarly of alarm that you are answerable to adoration Him.
*If God created a women to be a accompaniment to the macho of the species, why didn’t God actualize a changeable celestial to be a accompaniment to Him?
Regarding God’s Conception & the Aboriginal Cause Argument
*I adduce that God is in actuality a bewitched aerial blush albatross how farted the Cosmos into existence. Justification? We apperceive that farting exists, even in the beastly commonwealth (my bodies canyon wind for example); we apperceive that aerial exists, from insects to pterosaurs to birds to bats to airplanes; we apperceive that blush exists (quite afar from the entertainer); we apperceive that elephants abide too. So a aerial blush albatross that farted the Cosmos into actuality is way added rational that presupposing any airy abracadabra man in the sky did the accomplishment aback we acquire no complete ability that such a architect celestial in actuality even exists.
*Maybe God acquired the Big Bang accident but in accomplishing so blew Himself up – oops.
Regarding God’s Omniscience
*If God is all-knowing afresh how can He be agitated at you for aberrant if He knew even afore you were built-in that you would sin?
*Some say that there is no bucking in accepting all-knowing and accepting chargeless will. But if you apperceive for complete certain, and you are apprenticed by that knowledge, of what you are traveling to acquire for breakfast tomorrow morning, afresh of alarm you acquire to acquire that breakfast. Otherwise you didn’t apperceive for complete assertive what was to appear before-the-fact and you weren’t all-knowing. If you are all-knowing afresh you acquire no chargeless will in the amount if you do what you knew for complete assertive what you would do. Now either a celestial has chargeless will OR abroad it is all-knowing. The celestial cannot be both aback that would be a analytic aberration or contradiction. Of advance the celestial in catechism could be neither all-knowing AND acquire no chargeless will, which suggests that there ability not even be a celestial present and accounted for at all. Further, if God is NOT all-knowing, afresh I’ll advance that He doesn’t apperceive how to actualize an complete something from complete nothingness.
Rebuttal: Omniscience (knowing all) does not cover alive the future, because the approaching does not abide (by the complete grammar of the sentence, it would accomplish no faculty to say that the approaching exists). So, just as an all-seeing accepting doesn’t charge to apperceive the amount of hairs on Harry Potter’s arch (there is no such number, so there’s annihilation to know), additionally He would not acquire to apperceive the approaching (since there is no such thing).”
Rebutting the rebuttal: Some concordance definitions to alpha with of “omni”. Omni agency “indicates all”; “denoting all”; “an aspect of Latin agent acceptation ‘all’”. If you are ALL-knowing, the chat ALL agency just that – ALL. ALL encompasses ALL that is past; ALL that is present; ALL that is future; ALL is ALL that there is to apperceive about life, the Cosmos and everything. The byword is “all-knowing” NOT “all (except for the future)-knowing. Argue with the use of the chat “all”, not with me. And by the way, the approaching is deterministic accustomed the laws, attempt and relationships that aphorism the roost. One example: solar and lunar eclipses can be predicted with authoritativeness bags of years into the future. You could address a annual of approaching events, contest you apperceive acquire to happen.
Rebuttal 2: Omni does absolutely beggarly “all”, but the approaching does not exist, and so it is not allotment of “all” any added than the amount of hairs on Santa Claus’ bristles is allotment of “all”. There is no such number, so even an all-seeing accepting is not appropriate to apperceive it.
Rebutting the acknowledgment 2: Again, the byword is “all-knowing” NOT “all (except for the future)-knowing”. Further, accustomed theist’s acceptance that the Bible is the complete chat of God, the Book of Revelation is all about the future. Further, what about all of those Biblical prophets who had complete ability of the future? Finally, I acquire assertive myself through rational anticipation processes that chargeless will and omniscience are adverse and adverse terms.
Regarding God’s Will
*Since we weren’t accustomed to eat from the Tree of Ability that would advance that God admired to accumulate us in a accompaniment of authentic and abiding ignorance. Methinks knowledge, even ability of acceptable and evil, is bigger to benightedness and so the talking snake, Even and Adam ultimately did the adapted thing.
*Now just why would God all bodies to acquire chargeless will if He afresh will not acquiesce said bodies to exercise their chargeless will afterwards backbreaking them for it? That’s all the added the case if if appliance one’s chargeless will the exercise of that chargeless will harms no added humans. There are abounding “thou shall nots” in the Bible that if you do any of those “nots” God will get you for that even admitting no accepting was afflicted or inconvenienced in even the aboriginal way.
Regarding God’s ‘Morality’
*If you anticipate God is Mr. Chastity personified, afresh amuse acquiesce me to apprehend assertive adult-only Biblical acceptance to your adolescent children!
For archetype (one of many):
1 Samuel 15:2-3 (King James Version)
2 “Thus saith the LORD of hosts, I bethink that which Amalek did to Israel, how he laid delay for him in the way, if he came up from Egypt.”
3 “Now go and agonize Amalek, and absolutely abort all that they have, and additional them not; but annihilate both man and woman, baby and suckling, ox and sheep, biscuit and ass.”
Now how are you traveling to explain to your adolescent adolescent why God ordered breed and babies to be slaughtered? And what was the point of killing all of the livestock? God’s insane!
*More about God’s crimes? God says “do not kill”; God kills. Enough said! For addition I acclaim you watch on YouTube DarkMatter2525′s blow on “God goes on a accumulation annihilation spree”. He gives 41 Biblical references to aback up his claims.
*We do not, or we absolutely should not get our chastity from God on the area that He’s complete abundant a ‘do as I say, not as I do’ array of dude. Any complete affiliation amid God and chastity is a above oxymoronic association. I’m ready, accommodating and able to canyon judgement on God and God’s declared ‘morality’, abnormally on area that God, afterwards all, was created in the angel of humans. So I’m ultimately in judgement of adolescent humans, admitting bodies – bodies who wrote the Bible appropriately authentic God’s ‘morality’ – continued aback angry to dust and ashes.
*If you acquire God’s adaptation of chastity unreservedly, afresh you are casual judgement aloft God. If you do not acquire God’s adaptation of chastity unreservedly, either in allotment or in its entirety, afresh you are aswell casual on God. In either case, you are application your own internally acquired concepts of chastity to either accede or disagree with God’s morality.
*Morality acquire to appear from some authority. We (the people) ARE that authority.
*Can Christian theists adduce for me at atomic one inscription or certificate – NOT the Bible – that has been anachronous and accurate to the era amid 1 AD and say 50 AD, an inscription or certificate that mentions Jesus, abnormally a abnormal Jesus, one who performed miracles and who was adored from the dead? Can you do that? If not afresh amuse accumulate quiet about the actuality of abreast affirmation for the complete actuality of Jesus.
Because here’s the point. Did any of the declared (500 or so) assemblage (1 Corinthians 15: 6) to the adored Jesus, or any of the women or any of the aggregation who saw an activated adaptation of him post-crucifixion anytime pen their own aboriginal accepting annual of this miracle? The acknowledgment is an complete “no”.
And age-old historian Josephus wasn’t built-in until after-the-fact (37 AD – 100 AD). He makes no acknowledgment of Jesus until about 93-94 AD in his “Antiquities of the Jews”, declining to acknowledgment Jesus in beforehand works, and afresh gives abandoned two abrupt mentions which acquire becoming abundant bookish agitation (i.e. – not anybody is assertive of the actuality of what Josephus allegedly wrote. Further, there are no originals – of course. The ancient copies date to the 11th Century, so we’re ambidextrous with copies of copies of copies; translations of translations of translations. Who can absolutely say what alterations were or ability acquire been fabricated by those Christian monks into whose affliction was placed the accordant Josephus manuscript?
Even if admitting all of the copies and all of the translations and all of the opportunities for those with vested interests to add and/or decrease from what Josephus wrote, what Josephus wrote abandoned gives complete believability to Jesus the bitter person, not Jesus the abnormal being.
*Christian theists do go on, and on, and on, and on, and on about all of this affirmation for the actuality of a abnormal Jesus and a adored Jesus (and an airy Jesus, but never apperception that). Yet two of the three above monotheistic religions accord the abstraction of a abnormal / adored Jesus the complete thumbs down. So why doesn’t their declared affirmation for Jesus cut any ice with the Accurate Believers of these two added above faiths? Methinks something is complete aberrant with theist’s declared affirmation – like it doesn’t in actuality even exist.
*Regarding the declared awakening of Jesus, can you brainstorm the beating that would appear if avant-garde above account acceptance in the here-and-now weren’t appear anywhere until 50 years after-the-fact. What amount of accurateness could you apprehend abnormally if aggregate were just appear by word-of-mouth? Fifty years after-the-fact? Allocution about accession facts arising and absolutely affected news.
*Hercules is the complete new awakening adventure and Jesus is the affected account story. The awakening of Jesus was a hardly reworked appropriation of the Hercules resurrection. Now prove me wrong!
*The declared “empty tomb” is not an altercation for the awakening of Jesus. Just because my cookie jar is abandoned doesn’t beggarly I don’t acquire any cookies. Or, just because I acquire an abandoned wallet doesn’t beggarly that I’m broke.
*Sexual abnegation didn’t advice the Virgin Mary now, did it?
–”Who is it?”
-”It’s me, Jesus. Let me in.”
–”Why do you wish in?”
-”I wish to save you.”…
–”Save me from what?”
-”From what I’ll do to you if you don’t let me in
Regarding Atheists & Atheism
*Theists ability just account by watching on YouTube the call-in TV appearance “The Agnostic Experience” (out of Austin, Texas) which is in actuality advised accurately for theists to alarm in and accord their canon their best shot. I’d adulation to see theists go up afresh Matt Dillahunty who about became a Christian abbot (before he saw the light) and appropriately apparently knows added about Christian canon and the Bible bigger than a lot of theists do. I absolutely wouldn’t wish to go up adjoin him in a apostolic debate! So due warning: Dillahunty holds annihilation aback and pulls no punches and takes no prisoners.